mitt romney did not. partly it was maybe mitt romney had a cold. but it was the issue they were talking about. obama not going into the presidency with a lot of foreign policy experience. but there's been a lot happen on his watch. he's handled it. he's grown. he's handled it very, very well, i believe. restored our reputation around the world. mitt romney knows this is not his long suit. i think he was nervous about not making a big jerry ford kind of goof. gaffe. >> his positions in this area, mitt romney's, they're all an inch deep. so i think that there was a calculation that look, we do not want to get into a back and forth. peel back the onion. so when obama would attack, romney's response, a number of times was just well, attacking me doesn't solve the problem. but of course you could say about any attack or any -- you could say that no matter what. and it kind of gets you through in a way but it also fends off any extended -- any extended back and forth because when you peel back, he hasn't articulated beyond the talk and beyond the bluster